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Post by Norlinor on Apr 30, 2004 16:22:04 GMT
um yeah this is a great idea.... personally I'd rather see some simple "msg board" script go in game (I really dont think alot of ppl read these forums... certainly doesn't seem like it...) I think this should change, people must access the forums, this is a very important tool for a PW. I played for some time a server where all major events where partially on the forums, and being exclusively IG the sidetracks. Although I think the site must display only the common knowledge, things that everybody knows, and the rest we must discover RPing. This way, everybody can have a clue of what's up, and may figure what’s happening when some creatures attack Styne or Castille…
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Post by MitzaVolchenko on May 1, 2004 0:51:39 GMT
DM perspective...or at least my perspective...
I have no problem with the idea of hired guns and assassins. I do think that it needs to be watched for falling within the PvP rules. I also have absolutely no problem with being asked to oversee a scene that may cause some issues.
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Post by Kedra on May 1, 2004 14:27:09 GMT
DM perspective...or at least my perspective... I have no problem with the idea of hired guns and assassins. I do think that it needs to be watched for falling within the PvP rules. I also have absolutely no problem with being asked to oversee a scene that may cause some issues. Getting DM approval was more to avoid the possibilities of problems- DM notification and approval insures the situation isnt a griefing one. Plus, knowing that the assassin has DM approval before hand, informs you ahead of time that your death isnt considered trivial. You know that the assassin has met the guideline and it lessens the blow of getting killed. I dont see assassinations as a problem here-just thinking ahead *Note- Im arguiing a point and Im not in anyway angry- I realize I have a tendancy to sound angry in type - just clearifying
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Post by NightWalker on May 1, 2004 16:40:50 GMT
In my opinion DMs shouldn’t be involved in such things. DMs should balance, not forbide or allow a character action. These kind of stuff are players affairs, and should be solved by players, the DM role should be balance to prevail the fair play. I’m not talking about RP fair play, like ambushes or back stabs or the sort, this is where the fun is, I mean fair play concerning level difference, metagaming and abuse of game characteristics, like back stabbing a player when he/she is mining and so loaded of ores that can’t switch the pick with his/her weapon. I disagree. We all Hope that the other players will use good judgement, but sometimes that doesn't happen. Informing dm's ahead avoids some major problems later. I've played an assassin for hire on another server, was great fun, but on several occassions I had to deal with the target getting upset because some players HATE to lose, or some would be totally clueless on why anyone would hire me. They'd complain to the dm's that it was pking, griefing, and totally ooc. If the dm already knows the deal ahead of time, he/she can handle this in a matter of seconds and fix the problem. Otherwise, you get to waste precious, limited play time in explaining the whole deal, and why it's rp/IC to a dm and the victim involved. You're also keeping the dm from doing what they do best, take care of all the players, not just two having a ooc conflict. Plus, it prevents the pain of ooc grief to the assassin by the victim and all his/her friends later. And sending out a simple notice on the dm channel might not be enough, unless you make sure they know by waiting for their acknowledgement first. I imagine they've got tons of tells/chat/dialogs going on and it's possible they might miss one small line, and even then, the victim could still complain so you're back to the above problems again. It's the difference between five minutes of explaining the hit to the dm ahead of time compared to perhaps an hour of two players arguing with a dm trying to sort out the mess after the fact.
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Post by Silentus on May 1, 2004 17:13:10 GMT
Lets just put it this way - it might be wise to let a DM know if you are doing something that might cause distress... No one is forcing you to do so, but if you dont and it becomes a big hairy scene realise that it likely could have been avoided by simply hopping on the DM channel and saying that you intend to do something shady IC and it might be helpful to have a DM hovering invisibly above the action.
--- King of the 58 word sentance, Silentus ---
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