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Post by Silentus on Feb 19, 2004 23:17:51 GMT
On to our last topic (I hope) - Game Mechanics is a discusion about how some sticky situations need to be handled behind the scenes.I pose to you the following questions: 1. How should the Book of Ke'Haar be dealt with in reguards to CJ (select all that apply)?
......a. Can be used to escape Knights, but counts as impeding justice (evading arrest)
......b. Cannot be used to escape knights
......c. Can be used to escape jail if no mention of items taken off person
......d. Cannot be used to escape jail
2. How should inventory be dealt with while in prison (select one)?
......a. Guards automatically search and take all items off criminal upon inprisonment
......b. Guards must state that they take all items off criminal upon incaceration
......c. Guards must search the criminal and may not find all items (to hard to implement right now - don't select)
......d. Criminal gets to keep his inventory while in jail
3. How should spellcasters deal with spells while in prison?
......a. They may not cast
......b. They can cast only what is in memory (no resting to get back full compliment)
......c. They can only cast more if thier inventory is not removed (spellbooks and devine fouses needed for casting)
......d. They may cast as normal
4. How should we post criminal activities to the forums (after a special area is created for it) (select one)?
......a. You see it all happen (including prosecution), you post it
......b. Knight that prosecutes it posts it
......c. You see it all happen (including prosecution), you PM a representative who is responsible for it all
......d. Knight that prosecutes it PMs a representative who is responsible for it all
......e. Any knight aware of prosecution PMs a representative who is responsible for it all
5. If we have a single representative, are you willing to do the job (yes/no)?
6. Write in other potential game mechanic issues...--- My personal take --- 1 bd 2 b 3 c 4 e 5 yes 6 none from me - obviously or I would have posted more 
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Post by Spathic on Feb 19, 2004 23:23:35 GMT
1. a and d
2. b
3. a
4. any
5. no
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Post by Phoenix on Feb 19, 2004 23:26:35 GMT
1. A,D
2. B, Bah changed my vote, RP out the search if you want, otherwise they got their stuff.
3. B Should leave a way out for casters too. Take away spells and the only way out is if they have help.
4. B
5. Yes.
Edit: removed comments about the lasso, I don't want to confuse this issue with anything to do with the lasso. The point I was making is the knights are trusted players and I trust them to post the info themselves.
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Post by kline on Feb 19, 2004 23:57:57 GMT
1ac
2b
3b
4Hum I dont know reword this please.
5yes
6I really want to know more of this lasso. It see allot of rp ending. Everyone goes to jail kind of thing, no excape. Hum oh well just maybe the lasso can only be used against someone with less than 100 hp or if they are dead. That seems better. Or of coarse if the person gives up. That might be hard to program in.
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Post by addicted2rpg on Feb 20, 2004 1:05:17 GMT
For the PC in me:
1. ad
2. abstain/no vote
3. b
4. a
5. no
6. Tell that addicted guy to fix all those bugs!!
For the DM in me:
#2. Forgive me if this is mentioned in another thread, but the 'fyi' wasn't shown below the question. When does a person have their inventory dealt with? After how many offenses? The criminal history data "as is" tracks total time a criminal served in their life. It does not count by the number of times jailed, because I assumed there may be some times a person is jailed for something minor and other times for something heavy. These would be distinguished by different sentence lengths, and so the cumulative "badness" of the person would be the total time ever served in their criminal history (so ironically, you could end up with something like 3 thefts = 1 murder). If this is going to be a major problem speak now while the system is young.
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Post by JoScMa on Feb 20, 2004 2:20:16 GMT
1. a, d 2. a 3. b 4. b 5. No. 6. Yeah, addicted, fix all those bugs now!  |
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Post by Silentus on Feb 20, 2004 13:49:32 GMT
Due to the annoying connectin timeout, my main thread got double posted. Zhoreb replied on the other one, so I copied it here and deleted the original.
Zhoreb posted:
1) a, d
I chose a here. If someone wants to evade arrest, and thinks using the book is the best way, why not? If you will not allow this, you might as well not allow a monk to use his monk speed to get away. Besides, the book isn't instantaneous transfer, you have time to 'knock down' the criminal.
2) b
I am not sure on this one. How likely is it that a player might forget to state to take all items, where the character knight would never forget it?
3) a / c
If all items are removed, I assume this includes material components as well. If that is the case, only spells that have been memorized that do not require material components can be cast. No new spells can be memorized without spellbook. I know NWN doesn't really deal with material components, so maybe spellcasters should be handcuffed and gagged while in prison
4) e
5) yes
But 2 or 3 representatives would be better.
6) Nothing right now. If all Knights and Criminals know the rules, it should be ok.
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Post by Silentus on Feb 20, 2004 14:31:45 GMT
Phoenix - The lasso should not be discussed here. It is a tool that I know little to nothing about, but should not really change policies. Please take discussions of its use and distribution to the general forum. However there is NO REASON whatsoever that a criminal poster (4c-e) would need the tool.
Kline - The idea I had with reguards to how to handle criminal posting is as follows. I would lke to see a forum topic here that is nothing but a list of CONVICTED criminals along with what they were convicted of. In my mind I would say we would be best off having a represntative as a central point of contact for knights to report thier prosecutios to, that way it can stay in a nice clean chart. If we have everyone enter thier own, we will have a huge thread that will be difficult to glean informatoin from. Thats why we are voting.
Addicted - If the jail logs total time, I suppose we could base the Serial Killers execution on jail time. Based upon our concensus I kind of like the rusults. Guess what - I thnk htis means another poll (sigh) Ill write it up today.
Serial Killers:
.....Murder 1.....20min
.....Murder 2.....30min
.....Murder 3.....30min
.....Murder 4.....30min
.....Murder 5.....30min
.....Total.......140min
Career Thieves:
.....Theft 1......no jail time
.....Theft 2-15....10min each
.....Total.........140min
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Post by Phoenix on Feb 20, 2004 15:42:04 GMT
The point about the lasso is just that they are responsible players and shouldn't need to go through someone else to report the event to the forum. That's why I think B is a good answer for that question.
Leave the criminal thief=serial for another time. I think it's a good follow up, and eaisly changed after we implement, so let not hold for that.
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Post by Xiloscient on Feb 20, 2004 18:50:03 GMT
ad
d
b
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Nope
If you took items from the player.. would that include equipted items?
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Post by Silentus on Feb 20, 2004 19:00:58 GMT
This would only be a RP take (IE. Knight sez he takes all your stuff and you agree not to use it), and yes, it should be equiped and unequiped items.
I cant imagine a prison that would let you take anything remotely dangerous or potentially useful for escaping into a cell.
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Post by addicted2rpg on Feb 20, 2004 20:35:19 GMT
Lasso can be set to jail for: 5 mins 10 mins 15 mins 30 mins (<---I think...) If you need a 20 minute option added to support CJ vote outcome, I can add that as simple as cake. The Lasso is a very configurable device. Just be sure to IM me saying its needed or it won't get included in jail updates |
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Post by Silentus on Feb 20, 2004 20:44:29 GMT
Yep, we need it addicted. The times we need are 10, 20 & 30. Thanks!
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Post by Preedy1978 on Feb 20, 2004 20:59:13 GMT
1)- a & d
2)- hmm...I'm kinda torn...I would say A....because really IMO there is NO WAY im gonna leave a perp woth a great big pointy sword or a lock pick to escape a cell....having said that...sometimes things happen to make you forget....grrr....ok..Im sticking with A, but Im kinda cool with a or b.
3)- b. I dont really think guards could stop a spellcaster casting what he/she has memorised, but you can bet they wouldnt let them re-memorise particulalry lethal spells.
4)- b. Nice and simple option this.
5) - No. I'd love to...but the time diff and being a knight as well would make this difficult.
6) - Addicted fix the bugs!! Heh...seriously..from what Ive seen, bugs and all, I am really impressed with the new jailing system and all the cells etc...nice work man. :-)
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Post by Silentus on Feb 20, 2004 23:00:37 GMT
This is one of the last 2 topics - no new topics will be added except the final approval of the entire system. Just need a few more votes to close this one. Some regulars who havnt voted here yet:
AvengersWraith
Shwabba
Ride
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