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Post by Percival on Jan 24, 2004 23:21:13 GMT
Ok, dumb question time. Why do crafted weapons have attack bonus and enchantments. The longswords, which are wimpy for the most part on this server relative to all other weapons, effectively gets not bonus as enchantment and ab are exclusive use. So the Myrk longsword effectively becomes a AB +4 with 3 bonus points of damage. Any +5 longsword bought in a store effectively blows that away. Ok, its got keen...but compare to the other myrk weapons, it is worthless. I know your doing a million things, and I love them all, but can you please find time to put a decent longsword in the game. Preferably not Paladin Limited wwhich there are way to many items of. Suggestion Enchantment +6 or higher Keen some kind of 1d8 elemental damage maybe need a fire opal for fire and Synite for cold verdicte of acid, or to really kick ass all 3 for all 3  Just a thought. Thanks Ore Minersmith |
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Post by Al'verith on Jan 24, 2004 23:43:15 GMT
The same could be said of many of the classes of craftable weapons. A sole few (namely bastardswords & katanas) reign supreme in the field.
So, how could they be altered so that the majority of the users of that specific weapon type feel they are balanced? Won't there will always be complaints .. ?
Also, rapiers & scimitars;
It would be good for these to have some sort of damage bonus that aids with criticals opposed to its current bleeding and +1 vampire drain(both dmg reduction nullified, ignoring the resting problems with bleed) . Since these type of wielders rely on their criticals, the epitomb of their favored weapon should improve upon this .. ecetera.
Some players may have metaknowledge beforehand about what weapon classes are better (named above) and choose them from the beginning. Others may instead want to roleplay an interesting weapon, that may not be on par with the other crafted items of similar skill.
I agree, there is some lack of balance in some tradeskills, but I am confident it will all be addressed in time.
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Post by Lacutis on Jan 26, 2004 18:27:39 GMT
Short swords could use some help as well.
I dual wield short swords and there are only about half a dozen of them in the game (if that).
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Post by Phoenix on Jan 26, 2004 18:58:44 GMT
Short swords could use some help as well. I dual wield short swords and there are only about half a dozen of them in the game (if that). Err they may need work, but there are quite a few more than that. I can think of at least a dozen, between the ones you can buy + special crafted ones. Add the normal crafed ones, and your closer to 2 dozen... |
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Post by kline on Jan 27, 2004 12:32:02 GMT
I would hope all crafted ideams one day, to be the way to go. It would be nice to see that all the crafted ideams power was better than what you could just go buy in a store. If you really want to talk about something what about how people over 20th level do not spawn brown bears. Or how mytheral armor does nothing. And why, oh way do only fighters that wear full plate get the bad ass armor  There are lots of fighters that do not wear fulplate. Or why none of the armor is better than some +2 armor you can just go buy from the blacksmith in town?(m except for the bad ass fullplate of coarse) And why can there not be ideams that only 30th level and up people can wear? lots of questions. But I mean there is a lot of work to be done yet on this server, and I am sure in time it will get better.. I am not just going off here I would be glad to help out on anykind of updating you want to do with the ATS system. I have made my own system and I now exactly how it works.. if you need help. If not here are just a few things that I have found wrong. I can write about 500 ideams in about 3 or 4 hours if you want.ehhehee ;D Here some ideas just to throw out there  Copper full Plate +1 enchan -3/slashing Bronze full Plate +1 enchan -5/slashing -3/piercing Iron Full Plate +2 enchant -5/blunt Silver Full Plate +2 enchant +5AC bonus vs undead Gold Full Plate +3 enchant -10 piercing Rubicite Full Plate +3 enchant -20/fire and so on I can keep going if you want. |
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Post by Preedy1978 on Jan 27, 2004 13:45:11 GMT
Hey, i think we should cut Makz some slack here!
The full version of the crafting system has only been in place for a very short time, and Makz has yet to iron out the kinks regarding item statistics/abilities...he has said so himself.
So lets just give him some time eh? Poor fella works LONG and HARD on this server.
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Post by Makzimia on Jan 27, 2004 13:51:10 GMT
In fairness to anyone suffering from the lack of crafting conformity across the range, please keep in mind I inherited ALL of the quirks of the original maker of ATS. I have delved very deeply in many directions into it already, but there is much more to do, and it is just repetitive work really, and as Druga will tell you, you have to pay attention as you make them  So, I am tackling one lot of items per day, and adding a level of consistency to each as I go. Percival is making me a list, which of course will be out of date already of current craftables so that I can get an idea of deficiencies in a table format, similar to what was done with tailoring, which is still not 100% complete either, but thanks to Druga is a long way there. Makz. |
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Post by kline on Jan 27, 2004 16:12:48 GMT
O sorry I forgot to mention I love what you did for tailoring I know it still is not prefect but I love it. It makes me think allot now what belt do I want to wear, hum or what gloves? I is so hard to decide I love it thanks for what you did there. And I was not griping about the other things before, as much as I was tring to just inform him. I know all to well about the ATS system when I first got it, it had nothing on it but bags, longswords,daggers, and Axes and that is it. It took me a while to figure it all out and get a chart together to make the ideams seem to fall in place, in terms of how hard it is to make vs how much is it worth. I just want to help I feel so helpless. People always talk about it takes so much time to do this and that and he can not spend his time in all the areas at all the times. OK OK this is understandable and I bless him for what he has done and still does for us everyday to have fun. He does not get payed for this crap I know. But when you pull up to a McDonalds and order a hamburger one person does not make the burger for you. If they did you would be sitting in your car all day. Hope you brought you CD case. I have played D&D my whole life it feels like, and never even as a player did I not try to help out. Be it small like making sure we have a place to game, to calling everyone to sett up the times we are going to play, to getting all the books and everything ready to play. The server is still small and we are all in this together. I just feel as though my hands are tied behind my back and I can do nothing to help out. I just want to help so just like in the sit down game we can all just sit down and have fun. DMs included. |
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Post by Phoenix on Jan 27, 2004 17:11:58 GMT
Well it seems every other day a new weapon class is updated so it's easy to see where things are going, just look at tailoring.
Looks like Makz is in weapons now, maybe armours will be next. BTW I'm almost done with Jewel crafting, ~940 or so. Once I'm done I'll start on a list of what can be crafted there, though jewlery probably needs little work, if any.
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Post by anomalylone on Apr 10, 2004 4:23:25 GMT
i would just like to start out with ....man i love this server and hows its run....now on to what i have to say...if we maybe could mix some metals...that would make some nice stuff...all so more use of plus crystals ....also i'm not too sure on this but i have looked in to this...most of the very cool magic (long) swords that you can craft are really only made for good or evil...i'm neutral...soo what i cant use any good swords and sence there is no real way to change your sides (good/evil) ..i have tryed...i mean is this one of thos you must pick sides thing? i will understand ...i allso know that i am a cleric which makes no sence to be not on any side ...but what about the others?  |
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Post by Makzimia on Apr 10, 2004 13:25:39 GMT
anomalylone, I believe a neutral can use either of those longswords from memory.... have you tried? if not, I will certainly correct that. As far as further recipes go, here I go again, I know the forums are large and seem overwhelming, but please take the time to read especially the FAQ, and stickied items.
Makz.
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So, I am tackling one lot of items per day, and adding a level of consistency to each as I go. 
