Item Level Restrictions

[Naraldur]

Pretty self-explanatory question. The "Why?" part goes in a post, of course, it's not multiple choice.

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I am totally against item level restrictions. They're simply unrealistic, pointless, and inhibitive. Without item level restrictions, people would spend more time looting and looking for gold at lower levels so that they can buy uber gear. Currently, there is more focus on leveling.

This is not to say that removing item level restrictions would remove spawn-camping, promote roleplay, and solve world hunger. But the current system, with item level restrictions, is just so d*mned frustrating. Whoop, my character can't confront Bodaks at all at level 9 even though he ownz them at level ten, because the item is too pricey.

Item level restrictions are so horridly unrealistic, there's no excuse to have to deal with this. I mean, the current system creates characters that seek out intangible invented units of currency instead of possessions and material wealth. In RL, someone doesn't buy you jeans, and you say, "sorry, I haven't killed enough zombies yet to wear these, I'll explode if I put them on." Item level restrictions inspire such realistic conversations as:
"Want to party up?"
"No, busy, I have to powerlevel so I can buy a +3 weapon and kill that golem downstairs"
God forbid that someone should actually be able to make purchases based on the amount of money they have.
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I'll stop now. I could b*tch about Item level restrictions for another five paragraphs if I felt like it, I just needed to vent. Really, with the current level of cooperation I'm getting from my comp, my opinion on the matter doesn't count as much anyway.

[W(ie-ei)rdness]

You must take into account magic is something that is not easy to wield... In all reality, all weapons have an overwhelming aura that eminates from them if they are magical...

Anyway, thats my reasoning for level restrictions...

[TheEvilTit]

I agree to the points made, but one argument for item level restrictions could be that they are required to keep balance, imagine what a level 1 character would be like with level 40 items, imagine how fast they'd be able to level...of course currency would limit this from happening to a degree because generally a level 1 character is almost as poor as Derto ...

Characters rely on equipment a lot, maybe even a bit too much, i mean imagine what your character would be like without their equipment...a lot colder to say the least ...so errm i guess what i'm trying to say is that if you take away the item level restrictions you'd also make people more dependent on equipment.

<EDIT> *demonic laughter* AH HAHAHAHAHA! ... i was expecting this post to get a quick response so i typed fast

[Atlantis]

Hmm, I ask myself that very question; though W(ie-ei)rdness brings up a good point for the RP aspect, and that is what I do as well if I was given an item that is ... superior to me. Now for the hack and slash part, you really thing that a lvl 3 character should have a full plate armor that gives him +22 AC, a longsword that deals 10 dmg for fire with 10 divine that also has a +10 - 12 enhancement, or ... god forbid +10 strength off the bat?!?! I don't think so, that is one and practically one of the best reasons for ILR.

(Edit: Blah EvilTit beat me to it, DARN YOU )

[Hanah]

Let's say I've been watching too much Tour de France coverage, and I decide I want to take up cycling.

Now, I'd really love to ride whatever the heck Lance Armstrong is riding. He's a champion after all. Assuming I could afford it, sure, I'd go out and buy that bike, and take it home to ride to the corner store.

However... I have not trained my body like Lance Armstrong. I don't have enough experience on such a finely tuned machine. I simply haven't reached the level where I can take full advantage of that bike. The problem isn't the bike, it's me.

So until such time as I'm a champion cyclist myself, I will just have to slowly progress from the garage sale discount, to the athletic store special, to the specialty shoppe masterpiece. Someday, maybe I can ride a custom bike like Lance Armstrong. Maybe I'll be able to get full use out of it then.

This isn't meant to be mean-spirited or condescending. I'm just describing how I see the ILR as being justified. Sure, in my allegory I *could* ride around on Lance's bike, I'm not 'unable to equip it'. But I'm sure not getting its full potential out of it. I imagine it would be obscenely difficult to scale each item in NWN for each user's level, so this is a workaround.

Hanah

[Mercator]

I think it needs to be in on a PW. It keeps things balanced. Also, alot of the fun of lvl'ing is being able to finally use that really cool set of boots or weapon.

There are far to many mooks/twinkies/power-gamers as is. Without ILR, this server would turn into an Action server and RP would pretty much go out the window.

Maybe on a server that screened incoming players, ILR wouldn't need to be implemented or maybe on a server that regulated magic items better. But not on Fredian. ILR is the cat's meow here.

[addicted2rpg]

Sorry Naraldur, you're a newer member to the forums so you wouldn't remember this. I'm in no way bashing your request for opinion, and we look forward to future contributions from you

However, this subject has been visited in the past. There was a nice long thread about ILR.

Quite simply, Makz has said then that ILR will not be removed, no matter what. If he has made a change on that stance, he will surely come out and announce it on his updates, or run his own poll. So, sorry folks, there's no more value in this discussion unless you just want to talk about Neverwinter PW's in general, in which case, is reserved for the Bioware boards at nwn.bioware.com

Locked. =)