Thara
Young One
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Post by Thara on Jan 13, 2004 19:12:06 GMT
"Ok. First off, no one is doing anything about this its just a poll I made up on my own due to recent in game events"
Basically I feel that if "woot dude I just leveled!" is kept to Party Chat or Tells, then it will help keep the atmosphere most people seem to want. People will RP more, and stay in character more. I am not saying have strict rules just anything said out in "Talk" is taken as your PC is saying it.
So the options are
Yes : I would like to see a rule stating OOC to stay off the Talk channel. Explaining this is what you character says. And to remind people that Talk is for ingame Talk. No: I don't want to see this, I like this the way they are Maybe a reminder when you log on, s message after logging on after the website mention saying. Please remember that the "Talk" Channel is for in game Player Character talk, please use Tell or Party chat to chat OOC....
Please everyone vote on this topic. I think we are going to be surprised at what the comments and the results are.
Come to think of it Mazk what do you think of this poll?
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Hanah
Elder
Hanah Dedraluin<br>Kether<br>Verine Odama
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Post by Hanah on Jan 13, 2004 19:50:06 GMT
The traditional poll vote justification;-)
I'm voting 'no' to this. I think that rather than deciding if we have to take action about this issue, maybe we should take a step back and see if this is an issue at all. ''Do people generally have a problem with the current level of ooc discussion in talk mode?" In other words, if it ain't broke don't fix it... so is it broke or not?
That being said, I am an advocate of labelling ooc conversations as general ettiquette... be it with 'ooc' or (()) or // or whatever, just something to clearly define it as ooc.
This is probably obvious to you all by now but I'm really big on self-policing... the fewer tasks that are heaped upon our DMs the better in my opinion. That way they get to come up with nifty neato new stuff for us to "ooh" and "ahh" over;-)
Hanah
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Post by Silentus on Jan 13, 2004 21:02:11 GMT
I would like to see a slight decrease in ooc on the server but I do not believe we should outlaw ooc in talk. Simple fact is that frequently you roll play with people that are not in your party, and sometimes ooc is helpful to the whole group. It isnt quite safe to say 'well then just invite them into your party' because sometimes the people invovled are in different parties already and it will not allow you to merge unless you drop out of the other. Sometimes the whole group is fine with being casual, sometimes it is not appropriate. It's all about judgement calls.
I'm on board with Hanah here - police yourself, use good judgement, and use Party or Tell when it is possible for ooc content.
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Post by Makzimia on Jan 13, 2004 21:06:49 GMT
There is a rule in place that makes if courtesy for players to observe RP in play. That in my opinion, covers it. If you are not happy with an excess that occurs near you, a: ask nicely for them to take to party, if that does not help, b: move I know what it is like, that is why I did things like lock the doors in Styne Castle for during the day, for those occasions I can get on as Merrick. Makz.
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Post by AvengersWraith on Jan 13, 2004 21:18:13 GMT
I voted no.
I adventure mostly with people I shouldn't because of alignment conflicts, or is it people I should so I can try and set a better example for them to follow.
Anyways, I don't like to turn the PARTY line on because I forget to turn it off. But sometimes our conversations is very casual in that we mix in character and out of character together because it is more than an in game friendship.
If I do out of character chat around you (with or without the signals) and you prefer to keep the TALK channel free of non-character conversation tell me politely (may need to do it a few times for my memory to kick in), but I will use TELLs and ask the people I am chatting with to use tells.
In fact, I will start practicing using TELLs for out of character chat from here on out.
But no, I don't think it needs to be policed. If people are chatting up the TALK around you and it is interferring with your in game experience send out an "OOC: Please switch to TELLs or PARTY, I cannot keep track of IC conversation that I am involved with", most the people I chat with would respect that unless they are chatting IC, but using modern language. I use some modern language not knowing a substitute for what I want to say.
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Post by Phoenix on Jan 14, 2004 2:36:51 GMT
I'm saying no to a rule, but yes as a rule of thumb. Basically there are times when ooc is necessary to a *group* of people who are not in your party. So a bunch of tells isn't going to work.
If I want ooc chat I come here.
Other than that you can type /p blah blah blah when the talk mode is active and it will send a party message instead. Same with /t in party mode. I'm the same as AvengersWraith, if I turn on party mode I forget to turn it off. With clicking on the players icon in the chat window to get a tell and /p for party I can stay in 'talk' mode all day long.
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Post by Shwabba on Jan 14, 2004 6:10:10 GMT
I voted no on this simply because it wouldn't do any good. Most people on the server are conscious enough of the RP element involved to be polite enough not to overkill with ooc on public channels, so no need for a rule for them. Those who aren't wouldn't care and would ignore that rule the same as they do all the others, so no point in even having it.
Bah Humbug Your Grumpy Neighborhood Shwabbaman
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Post by Cella on Jan 14, 2004 9:35:12 GMT
I agree 100% on this, It really is most distracting if you are in RP and suddenly everyone around you starts talking about levelling etc
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Post by Zhoreb on Jan 14, 2004 10:01:16 GMT
I also voted no.
It will require to much policing to make this a rule. As a rule of thumb, I use the TALK channel for IC, all other channels I consider ooc. But Phoenix said it all. Sometimes it is necessary to reach a group of people not in your group etc.
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Post by Cella on Jan 14, 2004 12:28:56 GMT
I agree that it is almost impossible to police, so the outcome is pretty inevitable, but it would be nice if in RP situations we could restrict it to just "OOC AFK" type comments to inform rather than chat.
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Post by JoScMa on Jan 14, 2004 14:54:43 GMT
I agree that OOC should be kept to a minimum and it's up to the players to regulate themselves. There are instances where OOC is required i.e. to notify people you are AFK or need to talk to a group.
I've seen instances of OOC conversations going on that somewhat ruined the RP aspect for that moment (Like Frost and Neo's rambling about perma death a while back).
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Post by Preedy1978 on Jan 14, 2004 17:11:40 GMT
I voted no, it would take too much effort to police...i think makz has it covered...just ask the offenders to move away or talk in party...however you cant really force them to do so.
Some ppl that come on to the server arent really interested in RP (although i definetly am) and will probably ignore you even when u ask them to take the OOC talk away from them. If RP isnt their thing, then you cant really start penalising them if they are doing 'their own thing.'
Just my view, i CAN see the point of banning it, but would it really be fair to the non-RPers?
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Post by Shwabba on Jan 14, 2004 18:24:51 GMT
...however you cant really force them to do so. Some ppl that come on to the server arent really interested in RP ... If RP isnt their thing, then you cant really start penalising them if they are doing 'their own thing.' Just my view, i CAN see the point of banning it, but would it really be fair to the non-RPers? This is something that's been bothering me for a while, so I thought I would vent, just a little. a) Yes, you could force them to, but Makz has decided not to be theRP police and has stated that RP won't be enforced. b) If people aren't interested in RP and they don't want to be penalized because it isn't "their thing" then they shouldn't log on to a Role-Playing Persistent World. c) I don't think it's "fair" that my experience on a Role-Playing server should be diminished by people who can't be bothered to read the heading of the servers they log into. d) If Role-Playing is too strenuous and demanding for them, then they should go play EverQuest. Sincerely, Pissy, the 8th Dwarf (the one who got kicked out of the cottage before Snow White came along)
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Post by Phoenix on Jan 14, 2004 20:02:37 GMT
I think the amount of ooc talk IS kept to a minimum. I mean read the posts from almost everyone here, they are able all the same. 'I don't do it much, and I know when/how to use ooc'
The heavy players tend to be voiced in the forums, so I think if people are having issues with it, it's not likely a regular...
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taylor
Elder
S is for Shurikens
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Post by taylor on Jan 16, 2004 11:56:36 GMT
i think it was last night for british (including me) then ooc went way out of control and i was just as bad...
it got quite boring so i voted yes
im typing this while at college i rule ;D
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