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Post by MitzaVolchenko on Mar 6, 2004 22:57:31 GMT
Okay, I would like some feedback on the drow RP.
Many of us have characters with backgrounds that would cause us to slay drow on sight. Due to the DM rules we can't do this.
There has been a proliferation of drow PC's. A few are RP'd very well, but these are RP'd in such a way that people definitely want to kill them. The anti-drow prejudices run very deep, and are an integral part of the setting.
Some of the drow PC's are "good drow" ...too many of them in my opinion. In chronical D&D there is one renowned good drow (drizzt) and few others that have reacted neutrally in set circumstances.
How do others feel about this?
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Post by Spathic on Mar 6, 2004 23:06:23 GMT
i basically ignore the fact that PCs are drow... there are just way too many of them and most seem to be drow when it suits them you know... (most people ignore my character's race as well, though it seems i get the cold shoulder all the time anywa so...)
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Post by Frosty on Mar 7, 2004 3:21:41 GMT
What if an Underdark area was added where Drow would appear when first played instead of Styne. When they respawned they would appear in the Underdark instead of the temple. That would help keep most Drow out of sight of the people who keep killing them. I've seen this done on quite a few servers and it works quite well, since the Drow only have to go to Styne when they want to.
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Post by Spathic on Mar 7, 2004 3:33:18 GMT
not gonna happen... we talked about this for evils and it basically will have too many negatives for the cool points it would earn...
also that doesn't really address the point of this all... west styne will always be the crossroads of the server... everyone goes there regardless of their affiliation because that is where the action is in an RP sense... it also contains all the low level point of interests... Drow characters can hide out if they want now, they just don't...
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Post by AvengersWraith on Mar 7, 2004 4:39:16 GMT
Do not touch your dial, do not attempt to change the channel, we control the vertical, we control the horizontal; Fredian is sucking in characters from multiple worlds across multiple galaxies and dimensions, PLEASE DON'T METAGAME AND ASSUME SOMEONE IS A DROW BECAUSE OF THEIR APPEARANCE, it is much better to judge a person by how they act than how they speak or look.
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Post by Phoenix on Mar 7, 2004 5:10:10 GMT
It depends on you character and their experience. Most characters have plenty of reason for prejudices against the drow. I generally don't like the idea of attack on sight unless a larger RP calls for it, but harrasing them IC is kosher in my book. Everyone knows the drow have this rap, so if you play one expect it. Oh and the"I'm a good drow" is always overplayed, it's a nice idea but its much nicer to see an evil drow.
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Post by Preedy1978 on Mar 7, 2004 12:02:29 GMT
Heh..I have to agree with you on this Mitza...the drow in general are an evil race...how the hell did they manage to spawn so man do-gooders? Drizzt Do'Urden is the only 'good' Drow that i have ever heard of in stories (R.A. Salvatore is the novelist, but im sure you all knew that, plus he makes appearances in BG 1 & 2), all other drow HATE him on sight because he such a do-gooder!
As for Metagaming from appearance Avengerswraith...Im sorry...but i disagree...thats not metagaming at all. IRL you see someone who looks similar to something or race that you hate (racism, unfortunately is still a big thing in todays society), then you will react accordingly. In Fredian, peoples reactions are going to be a little more extreme. Why? Because Drow are hated by most people and they keep attacking the Islands settlements!
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Post by Spathic on Mar 7, 2004 12:04:29 GMT
Actually it wouldn't be metagaming to think someone is a drow by their appearance... Do we not call all the short fat guys dwarves? All the thin pointy eared folk elves? For Things that are common knowledge like this it is not metagaming.... Now if they were half dragon or something and you used their little background window that would be metagaming... or if you assumed something with one character based on the experiences of another character...
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Post by JoScMa on Mar 7, 2004 14:05:00 GMT
I've been having a lot of problems with people wanting to kill drow on sight. I am sick of the poor RP'ing just so they can get an excuse to kill. Tear, for example, is half-drow. She kept getting killed over and over and over by Chickaroo. Here he is, 30+ level character who keeps killing someone with < 10 levels. And his RP'ing during that time? Something around the lines of " Drow!" Then attack.
I don't mind if players play their PC's to be prejudiced against drow. I do mind when that particular player doesn't RP well worth a d**n and kills the same drow PC continuiosly.
No offense to OshGosh, but yesterday really ticked me off.
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Post by Cartoonic on Mar 7, 2004 14:14:04 GMT
Alright my 2 cents on this is
If you RP it completly and see a relative reason to kill the drow IE: they're acting like a typical drow, well ok...
But No one may kill a level 1 person just because they're a drow IE: A level 40 kills a level 1, thats just bad for the server, and yes after that they will likely call you a metagamer for it but you know.. its your choice and DMs like me will have to sort them out afterwards
Think about it before you do it please.
Cartoonic.
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Post by Preedy1978 on Mar 7, 2004 15:54:28 GMT
I agree totally...if its not in the context of RP, then that sort of thing really has to stop. Whilst i do agree that there are too many people IMO RPing Drow as 'goody two shoes' or neutral, it is still up to those people if they wish to do so...and its up to us all to behave ourselves.
As most of the players that have been with the server for a while know...Karl HATES the Drow...but, he does behave within the limits of the law, because he has realised that Drow as a race are evil...but there are individual Drow that are not really bad people at all. (although IMO ooc wise, people really need to think about this, there arent really a lot of 'good' Drow about, they ARE an evil race.)
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Post by Makzimia on Mar 7, 2004 16:00:14 GMT
The joys of having a subrace of Drow  . Seriously, my desire on this subject is simple, you treat players as you would normally with no prejudice unless they do something to you IC. I do not want to see anymore of this ATTACK it's a DROW!!! that is going to get you a short walk on a short plank. While I understand the sentiment towards drow with the way the Island gets assaulted on occasions by the drow, you will NOT attack players in the future just because they appear to be drow. End of discussion!!! Makz. |
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Post by addicted2rpg on May 17, 2004 17:55:28 GMT
A quick and dirty stock recipe to making a drow.
Stock chars are forever.
Drizz't and Eillistrae not included.
1. Chaos [/i]
a) helps make society strong, removes the weak
b) core value of Lolth
2. Hate [/i]
a) expressed as distrust in eachother
b) gets ugly for foreigners and surface elves
c) disdain for the weak
3. Gender Roles [/i]
a) In politics House led by a matron
b) females are clerics, warriors
c) males are warriors, wizards
d) males usually defer to females but its only marked by equal or greater statuses in society. It is unlikely a male would defer to a female without a House or a cast-out, for example.
4. Intrigue [/i]
a) very political
b) battles fought mostly in the form of single person assassination.
c) values of chaos played out in this arena.
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. Seriously, my desire on this subject is simple, you treat players as you would normally with no prejudice unless they do something to you IC. I do not want to see anymore of this ATTACK it's a DROW!!! that is going to get you a short walk on a short plank. While I understand the sentiment towards drow with the way the Island gets assaulted on occasions by the drow, you will NOT attack players in the future just because they appear to be drow. End of discussion!!!
