Knights

[Severian]

Being a squire to Mack, comes with it alot of abuse. I'm not sure if its because everyone thinks its a joke or what but I take it seriously. And even though I am not a knight yet, I still feel it important to give respect where it is due. If you treat me nice, I'll be nice. Heck even if you don't I'll still be nice. I have helped the knights on a number of occations to help try to keep a situation under control, and believe me it isn't always easy. And I've seen the knights handle situations where I wasn't involved, and if you ask me, I think all the people that went to the slammer in some ways deserved it. Just my opinion

[AvengersWraith]

addicted2rpg said:

A player called me up asking about a linux box in particular, but they also mentioned in passing that "West Styne is a warzone if you're on right now. That place is way too violent."

I didn't login

OK, sometimes (quite often) when the knights are off duty and not around people act like savages in West Styne. I even heard one character tell someone to move along, evil was running West Styne that night, that was probably the night Addicted got the phone call.

Maybe what we need is for knights to be able to dole out small amounts of XP to "snitches". Something needs to happen, a knight imprisoning the wrong character on accident is by far more understandable than an evil character telling new characters to leave town because there are no knights on duty and they are in charge for the night.

[AvengersWraith]

P.S.

If the evil charcters had over powered the knights and made sure to use TELLs to let new characters know what happened, I could then understand that.

[MitzaVolchenko]

I am glad I missed that...I would have likely had very harsh words for the PLAYERS for running new folks out of town.

West Styne should not be a war zone...occasionally fights break out, and generally they are confined to the people they involve. The problems come when area effect spells start getting thrown about.

Either way, the Knights as players do their best, and folks need to cut them some slack. Additionally, the jail coul duse some NPC guards. The new jail is about as secure as Ranestadt was...which is to say not at all. So not only do you have to send someone to jail, but you have to then send all of the available good aligned to guard them.

Punishment has to mean something for it to have any effect.

[kline]

MitzaVolchenko said:

I am glad I missed that...I would have likely had very harsh words for the PLAYERS for running new folks out of town.

West Styne should not be a war zone...occasionally fights break out, and generally they are confined to the people they involve. The problems come when area effect spells start getting thrown about.

Either way, the Knights as players do their best, and folks need to cut them some slack. Additionally, the jail coul duse some NPC guards. The new jail is about as secure as Ranestadt was...which is to say not at all. So not only do you have to send someone to jail, but you have to then send all of the available good aligned to guard them.

Punishment has to mean something for it to have any effect.

Ok again people just take things to far. OK first off there where no new people in town yes there where low level people in town, but no one new to the server.(5 people on server total) Hell one of the three people in town at the time was on TS with me.Second There was a knight on duty and I kept having to fight him off over and over. Third I was not using weapons and I killed noone it was fun. All the low level people would come in and attack me tring to run me out of town and I tried to hold them off eventually they ran me off. Forth I only took over the town for one night and thats game time one night and truly it was more like 20 minutes. The people invovled had fun they ran in with there stone skins on and I could not even hurt them with my fist so we just beat the snot out of each other. The people invovled where sending me tells and saying how cool that was . Any way I think I am tired of being evil now I see that evil is not and will not be tolorated by the longer standing players on this server. They just can not stand to have someone that is as powerful as them, that goes against them
As far the hell ball I threw in town the other day there was a very long standing plot behind all that. When I cast the hell ball did I look and see who was there first, yes. There was 4 Knights and some innocents. Three or four of the innocents where high levels. Did anyone really get hurt when I threw the hell ball. No. I just threw one and ran. If there was a low level person there I bet they where raised within 5 seconds.(accually I know there was a lowl level person there and he was raised right away) Then I am wanted for anouther murder furthering the plot line with Getty and The Knights.
Ok now lets think anouther way what if everyone was good and no one comited crimes and everyone loved each other I am sure there is a couple of people out there that would love to game this way. Do I know any though?NO. But we can all play that way. You can go ahead and throw away you CJ system you worked so hard on and the knight please what do you need those for if eveyone is just all goody goody all the time. The Knights have all the hook ups the evil people have none. The good people on the server are never griped about because why? They are good. The evil peole get griped about though why? Because we are evil.
Man I like the Knights I like what they do I like there characters. I have some gripes about them but when I do I send them tells and we always work it out I am a resonable person. The only thing I have to say about the Knights is never take it personal. It is all a game we are all here just to have fun. To get away. So everyone just enjoy each other and have fun.

[Hanah]

For starters, Kline, not all mayhem caused in West Styne is caused by your characters. Keep that in mind, do not assume people are trying to single you out.

I understand that there is some RP behind Getty's actions, or at least I have been told so OOC. IC though, Hanah has no idea what is going on. She sees someone who runs around and kills and then runs away. Now, that is all that aziesel saw for a long time too... now while it is wonderful that you are having an RP vibe and enjoying it, it is possible that some of us your actions have included are perhaps not. RP is essentially a mutual experience, perhaps we all ought to bear that in mind to further enjoyment for *all* players.

On the issue of evil, no one is arguing that evil has a role in the community of Fredian. I think you will be hard pressed to find anyone who would tell you they want a fluffy bunny server where we make daisy chains, so kindly don't make such assumptions. Do not put words in my mouth and I will not put words in yours, fair?

With respect to new people.. this is entirely an OOC thing. OOC I believe that it is the responsibility of long standing players to help usher newer folks into this community. It was done for me when I first arrived here and I would be remiss to not repay the favour. Now that perhaps includes us not killing them by any means within their first five minutes, hmm? After all, had one of us experienced such an incident we would be justifiably frustrated and may not have decided to remain here.

You end your post with some very insightful words: do not take it personal. I would advocate this advice for all of us on this server, including yourself, kline.

Hanah
... disclaimer: imagine someone who is smiling saying this.

[AvengersWraith]

My concern is with new and fairly new player to Fredian, if you use the tells to those who look confused or baffled as to why every NPC is being killed, send them a TELL and offer to tell them the story behind knights being incharge of protecting Styne and that on nights that there are no knights EVIL CHARACTERS like to live it up, they may join, try to stop it or need help getting to other things that can be done on Fredian.

I am not suggesting EVIL not rule over West Styne when all the knights are off duty, just that new characters are given Fredian Storyline, asked to read their journal, offer some OOC help if needed (don't kill NPCs they will need to interact with), a brief explanation of ATS/Salandra's Craftables as a possible source of income.

Take the few minutes to make them feel welcome, if you are in West Styne when a new character and quite possibly a very first time visitor arrives, try and help them IC if possible, or OOC if necessary. It makes a good impression when the GOOD/LAWFUL characters stop to help new arrivals, it makes an even better impression when EVIL/CHAOTIC characters stop to help them.

Late night, my time, not that many players are on in the wee hours of the morning during the week. All seasoned characters should be ambassadors of Fredian IMO.

[Preedy1978]

Ok..first off, Omega...fair point, If it was meant as a tell, then fair do's, but i didnt catch you saying it was supposed to be a tell...so thats an honest blooper on both our parts...If i had seen you type that, i wouldnt have reacted the way i did.

Ok...in regards to not liking other chars of equal power to my own. Kline...im sorry if this sounds a little blunt, but PFFTT.

Karl has been 40th level for some time now, and even when he was higher level than most of the other chars on the server, I NEVER had a power trip. I dont mind getting the tar beaten out of my chars either, as sometimes, the best rp comes out of these situations. (remember the incident in the Mein family home?)

Remember, RP is mutual....we all should have fun, and RP how we want to, but hey, lets make sure that we are ALL having fun!

[kline]

Karl you know I am not writing about you so PFFFt yourself ;D