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Post by Silentus on Feb 24, 2004 20:56:59 GMT
Ok, post them here - put in whatever you would like to see in Crminal justice. Ill keep a list and later on someday we will discuss amendments to the current system.
I'll get the ball rolling with:
1. Judges and/or Juries for High Profile cases.
2. Bounty Hunter System - Rewards for assisting the law
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Post by Phoenix on Feb 24, 2004 22:05:03 GMT
1. What constitutes 'high profile'?
I like the idea of justices and juries in general, but could be hard to implement (getting everyone togther for the event).
2. I like it, and could be very simple. Just post the crime and an amount. Keep it all in the forums...
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Post by Severian on Feb 25, 2004 2:16:16 GMT
1. I agree, I think that a judge and jury system will be to hard to start. (I mean I hate getting jury duty in real life)
2. This would be good if there was some sort of message board in town to post the bounties on. Not just here on the forums
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Post by Preedy1978 on Feb 25, 2004 20:08:27 GMT
1)- I like the sound of it, but it would be extremely difficult to carry out i fear.
2)- Hmm...I like the sounds of this...the forums WOULD make an easy and simple way to do this...
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Post by addicted2rpg on Feb 25, 2004 20:53:37 GMT
1. High Profile should be any case where execution of the PC is on the topic for decision. This can be either a kill/respawn issue or even "perma death" -- but we DMs are not going to go and delete the PC. The player would have to willingly just not login as that PC anymore (which also ensures agreement and willingness to RP along with it). The reason why I recommend this definition of high profile is that most jail sentences (even the 30 minute ones) can be served faster than a trial can be conducted -- or even arranged. Thus, any verdict as to jail time is nullified on the grounds that the defendant had already served their time. Reimbursement for unfair time served (innocent)--- hate that avenue, it takes us to "sueing" -- or additional jail time (heinously guilty) both don't sound very fun, imho. Although slavery is legal on the isle of fredian, it would probably be too controversial to actually be implemented as a punishment arising out of a "trial of peers" Most PCs (Hanah might be a noteable exception) are not particularly bothered by death or dealing it out, and seems a more possible sentence that could arise out of a "trial of peers" --- meaning, Fredian Law would find it as an acceptable sentence where slavery would not. Keep in mind that if something is legal it doesn't necessarily mean that the law would also find it suitable to be a punishment , likewise a legally acceptable punishment is not necessarily legal in general. RL jury's never invent sentences, the law covers the penalty range. In medieval times, though, sometimes we had MOBS  (and in modern times, too  ). Anyone want to go here? |
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Post by Silentus on Feb 25, 2004 22:04:40 GMT
Hehe, perhaps Ive trained you all too well as to what this forum was for Now Im mostly just recommending people place suggestions for polls later more than feedback on those ideas - although anything you want to do with it is fine (if its CJ related of course) |
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Post by Phoenix on Feb 25, 2004 22:18:55 GMT
RL jury's never invent sentences, the law covers the penalty range. In medieval times, though, sometimes we had MOBS (and in modern times, too ). Anyone want to go here? Public stoning was suggested as a means for executation, and everyone can use a sling/bullet, right?  |
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Post by Phoenix on Feb 26, 2004 19:50:39 GMT
So did I, thank Kline, his idea. ;D
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Post by addicted2rpg on Feb 26, 2004 21:05:27 GMT
Hmm, perhaps I can make it so. When I get out of maintenace mode tI can develop functionality for a person to be stunned on a pike and people can have their way. The question for you guys to decide is what, or who, triggers the code? That first action of, "Lets take him out and stone him!" |
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Post by Phoenix on Feb 26, 2004 22:20:07 GMT
Consider putting them inside an unopenable cell. Don't want people pick pocketing them while being stoned to death, or maybe we do. I think they are already 'paying' for their crime, so protect them from being picked.
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Post by Preedy1978 on Feb 26, 2004 23:03:35 GMT
The public stoning is a cool idea...also VERY public and it would make an excellent show-piece as well. (For all those sadistic vengeful types out there :-) )
If i might make another suggestion, regarding the fining of criminals...
1)- The Knights really need a way to be able to force the money from the criminal....i mean, when they are jailed, i dont think most of the time they are going to stroll back up to a knight with the cash and say: "Hey! heres the swag!" ....ok, maybe not force, but an idea is needed.
2)- hence...how about 'community service' for those who CANNOT AFFORD the fine? Or maybe extended jail time?
I dont know...these are just ideas.
Ohh...and is it possible for Knights to have the keys to the cells?
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Post by Phoenix on Feb 27, 2004 17:15:40 GMT
I was thinking as mob/stoning as the executation method, the angry mob aspect is an interesting angle...
edit: maybe those seeking a mob reaction, instead of a trial, could hold up torches during the trial to show thier distaste for the event. The more people showing torches means more distaste leading to a mob mentality.
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Post by Silentus on Feb 27, 2004 18:36:28 GMT
Not bad. As we dont have trials as such it is a little difficult to manage, but I would say that if a knight saw a bunch of people with torches hanging aroud and he had enough of the criminal (had decided he was guilty) - the knight could simply walk away or turn his back. Leads for a potentaill ycorrupt knighthood though On the plus side, the criminal gets no jail time, just murdered with no hope of knightly jusice in his defence. Personally i agree that executions would be the main place though. MUCH easier to legislate. |
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Post by Phoenix on Feb 27, 2004 19:16:27 GMT
Well maybe the knight isn't corrupt, but afraid of the mob. No reason a knight wouldn't leave 'to get backup' because the situation was out of their control only to find the crowd alrady took care of things.
The other idea about raising torches is if we do have trials for high profile crimes.
edit: Burn the witch, Burn her!
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Post by Severian on Feb 27, 2004 20:43:17 GMT
Not to sound sadistic or anything, but the more I read the ideas about the public stoning form of execution the more I like it. As I recall back in the medival days, it was not uncommen to see such a form of mob rule, It will be very interesting to see if this takes shape. Also the public board IN GAME, would serve 2 purposes. It could be used to post bounties as well as advertise the executions. Just a thought |
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