Mid-level Level-up

[parwith]

Is there anyplace good for a mid-level player to work on leveling up besides the bridge in the Swamp Crypts? My character is currently level 17 and has been running up and down that bridge for several levels now. I’ve asked around and literally everyone has told me that the Swamp Crypts are the only place for a mid-level player to gain levels. There is always someone on the bridge and in the lich room and although virtually everyone has been really great about partying up and sharing XP , it is getting a little redundant. I know I can re-do the quests weekly, and I have been, but I would like to find someplace else to fight. The hawkmen kill me instantly if I try to go to the Clevian areas and the XP everyplace else is pretty sad by this level. I understand if that’s the only good place, but I wanted to check if anyone else had suggestions.

Also, if there is no place else, I was wondering if you would be interested in something where players submitted new areas to you for approval – and possibly addition. My husband and I have done quite a bit of development and would be interested in trying out an area design (we missed out on the Castille dungeon contest because we were still pretty new to Fredian at the time). However, we don't want to bug you with unwanted submissions ... just curious. Thanks!

[taylor]

although it is hard and depends on your build to level up, i dont think telling you would be allowed on the forums they've had these issues, but to answer your basic question

is there anyplace good for a mid-level to work on leveling up

the basic answer is yes but im not telling you where

go out and explore

[clark625]

Taylor's completely correct here.... there's lots of awesome places in Fredian for excitement. I personally like to take on critters that give me maximum xp if at all possible.

It seems lots of people ask about great places to level (as if killing things is the only great thing about Fredian), but really... go and explore. Search the caves. See what's over in the pits of despair. Get yourself destoyed by the waste land giants in the mountains. It's all fun, and it's not quite as routine as going back and forth across the same monsters (something I tend to call "farming").

[Phoenix]

Yes, there are two other good places that I can think of off the top of my head for just about any character build.

I love the fact that the soutern swamps are the 'fredian training ground'. Leaves all the good places for me. ^.^

In fact, I don't think I have ever really leveled in those crypts.

edit: D'oh! It's not like I'm not telling you because I want to be a jerk, you will have to find these places in game, this kind of info isn't for the boards. Find me in game and I might be a little more loose lipped.

[parwith]

Thanks, but I've been all over the island numerous times - cave, dungeons, castles, wall breaches, and all. I've actually mapped out the whole island for myself. I don't enjoy the "farming," but I haven't been able to find anyplace with similar level of XP monsters. I keep running into areas where I get 12 XP per monster. Anyplace I haven't been able to play (eg, mysterious castle, cleians) I've gone back to every time I level up to see if I can survive them yet. I've been playing the same character for two months now and keep seeing people go from effortless to impossible while I'm still searching for someplace to get more than a few XP points. Oh well ...

[W(ie-ei)rdness]

Even I don't know where these are... hehehe

[parwith]

Thanks, Phoenix - I will look for you next time I'm on!

[Phoenix]

No problem, I'd also like to mention the Fredian Team Speak server. info here: makzimia.proboards19.com/index.cgi?board=Chat&action=display&thread=1076195691

It's a lot faster they typing and I'm often on there when I'm playing anyways.

You can find me as the names listed to the left, under my name or as The Red Wizard.

[Makzimia]

And again the ugly subject is raised... and again the reason is that certain quantities of players think they have found the "Training grounds" and take everyone there, when in fact those are just the players who never explored once they were also shown it in the first place... sad.. but true.. there are many places to go, some not as obvious to people as they may think, due to me using things that other servers do not.

Also, note, I use level bases spawns, which determine difficulty and numbers based on your level in MOST cases, so, what you find at level 5 won't be there at level 10 etc...

Works like that on quests also, some are not available until later.

As for areas, I was interested initially in the idea of allowing player areas, but, after the few times I have got players to make areas even for homes, and the time I still need to put in orientating the area/s, checking them for rogue items and or scripts, I save with my abilities of making areas only about 35% of my time . No-one would be able to make exteriors for me anyway, which leaves interiors, which we have hundreds of!. Some encounters are also in buildings for the non-explorers info

Makz.

[parwith]

Thank you. I guess I keep running into those folks who think they've found the training grounds. The Ilsand is so well designed, it seemed really odd to me that there would be a "dead area" for middle levels. Since everyone I asked in character was telling me the same thing, I thought I'd try here. This gives me some options and some new characters to query.

[serpitus]

Not to beat a dead horse but I get the feeling you are missing one big point about Fredian. The island is balanced for every build/level/race/character. If you feel the need to be 40th with your character then you will miss out on events that are level based. And then what to do? hmm you can RP at any level. Then explore, if you need a buddy find EC he'll take you around, or more to the point you could take him around He hasn't seen everything yet. And he is way to lazy and probably innebriated to help in a fight. That keeps it out of "Powerleveling" considerations and keeps it IC. Best of luck.

[Phoenix]

The way the spawns are setup you may miss the trigger area if you always travel from x to y to z in a certain order. Traveling the same path backwards will sometimes yield spawns you have not seen. Heck just the other day I found an spot that spawned several zombie warriors at real low level, nice target practice... I have been in the area a billion times, but never hit that spawn.

Remember, the spawn point and the trigger point can be way far away from each other. To 'fully' explore an area's mobs you have to walk over every inch of the area to hit the trigger, then walk the entire area again to see what got spawned.

The there are areas that are 'out of the way' you have to look for, these are more obvious, once you find them...

[Jorthain]

I just want to clarify, Parwith & I do A LOT of exploring. Our characters are a ranger & a druid. We are not into power-leveling, in fact this is the reason she asked this question. We like to progress through stories, but the same stories get tiring after awhile. We've just been looking for natural progression through RP oriented story & we are not finding it. I prefer to go through a dungeon or other area once or twice max & then move on. We also spend a good portion of time interacting with the other players, but within the bounds of RP.

Once again for emphasis THIS IS NOT ABOUT POWER LEVELING, THIS IS ABOUT STORY & VARIETY.

Thank you Phoenix for your help. Ameng (Parwith) will probably look you up, but within the confines of RP Elith will not.

We're really not trying to be stupid newbies here (or jerks we're just frustrated right now because we are trying to find NEW things to do on the Island.), we try to give back as much as we can to every new player we meet without telling them the details, just hints & such. And that is all we are looking for. Explore is just not an answer for characters who do it all the time.

Thanks to all of you for replying,
Jorthain

[parwith]

Serpitus - I want to assure you that I have no interest in rapidly leveling my character. As I said before, I have been playing this character for more than 2 months and am only level 17 - if I was interested in power leveling, I would have been to 40 long ago. I am interested in developing a balanced charater who role plays, crafts, and fights. Right now I am merely interested in moving on to the higher level quests and I'm still getting whooped when I try to go to those places. I agree that simply starting a character and quickly leveling to 40 is pretty darned boring.

Phoenix - thanks for the ideas - I'll try running through the Island backwards . Seriously - I'll try going through areas in a different direction as well. And I will look you up.

Thanks to all for the input!

[Phoenix]

Power leveling is used differently on different servers/by different players. Here it generally means traveling with someone who is significantly higher or lower levels for the reasons of XP.

When a 20th level character is partied with a 1st and kills something they get a lot more XP than if they were alone. The 1st level character gets XPs for nothing (watching the 20th kill the monster).

There were rules put in place to prevent this. When you are <20th, you cannot party with characters that are +/- 5 level difference. When you hit >20th you can travel with +/- 10 levels difference.

Power leveling to others means to get XP fast. There is nothing 'wrong' with that here, other than some players don't like it.

serpitus, is referring to the rules against it. Since he is high levels (I think 40th, or close) and you are lower than 30, he can't party with you in these areas he would show you for XP, but is giving an RP reason why he won't help you fight (too drunk). Not accusing you of the other definition.

FYI, there is nothing against partying with lower levels, just getting XP. If you are partied and in different areas (can't affect each others XPs) or you are not fighting monsters there is no problem with partying. I do it all the time, because it's easier for party chat, and to send tells (click on the party portrait).