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Post by CrunchX on May 19, 2004 19:24:10 GMT
This is way off topic to the original posts, but hey, it's your thread. Let me just point out again, no build is perfect, and some builds will not defeat other builds. However, that isn't the case here, your logic is flawed. True seeing can be dispelled no? Do you really think you have more TS spells than the rogue has scrolls/rings/wands of dispell? When you run out of TS, the thief could HiPS/sneak attack you to death, in a one on one duel. Since you want to focus on your build, give us the basic level breakdown and I can show you specifics. Did you forget about the truth helm? 3x true seeing per day and it also gives more spot and listen skill so I probably wouldn't even need true seeing to spot you. Also, do you really think i'm just going to stand there while you dispell me 3 times?? I think you can only use 1 scroll/ring/wand per round anyway (maybe 2), while i've attacked you 4 times in that round and knocked you down unless you're immune... Anyway.. I never said my build was perfect or that it could defeat all other builds, no I won't post the level breakdown, at least until after this tourney that might be happening next month... you can have your chance to find my weaknesses then
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Post by Phoenix on May 19, 2004 19:44:52 GMT
You mean the helm that EVERY 40th level character wears, that has been discussed/changed several times, the one thats on BOTH of my 40th level chars.? No, I didn't forget about that. OK, lets play through a couple of imaginary rounds. RD1 you cast TS and try to attack, opponent cast dispell and hides. result=you get to attack RD2 Thief is hidden, so you recast TS and attack. Thief backstabs, your going to lose initiative so he acts first. and dispells your TS again. result=both attack, he gets backstabs. Rinse and repeat. If you run out of TS before he dies, you lose. If your logged on, I can see your level breakdown, it's no sekret. When you login and your at the character selection screen, look to the right, see those tabs? click. Might as well post the levels... The whole using an item thing isn't that important becaues your not using 2 a round. You can still use an item and attack in the same round. Which you will be doing once you run out of TS and use the helm.
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Post by CrunchX on May 19, 2004 19:57:51 GMT
Of course you can see how many levels of each class I have if i'm logged in and you know my character name, but that tells you almost nothing about my character and what it can do. I thought you wanted a full list of feats etc... like in the character builds post, I might do something like that after the tourney. Unless you're wearing items that give a nice bonus to hide AND move silently, i'll spot you without true seeing anyway, and to sneak attack me you have to hit me first, rogues aren't the best for attack bonus.
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Post by Phoenix on May 19, 2004 20:11:57 GMT
Nah, just the level breakdown. That's why it's all I asked for, anyone can get that.
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Post by Silentus on May 20, 2004 14:42:45 GMT
I'm locking this thread - I think its safe to say this has moved squarely into the character builds area.
As an answer to the original ATS/Crafting issue: Makz is done updating weapons for the time being at least. As that is the case, Im sure he will recieve data from crafters (perhaps me) in nice excel spreadsheets that easily show the exceptions to the common enhancement conventions. He will correct or leave them as he wishes. I've been putting off making such a spreadsheet for him again recently because there were always so many changes that it wouldnt have been feasible to update it frequently enough. With his decided reduction in modifications, that becomes a more appealing project again.
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