Character Builds

[addicted2rpg]

Ok, time for our powergaming population to speak up about what you feel is important. I want to see some char builds posted.

Here are the build post requirements:
- if the PC exists, state its name.
- state race, class, beginning stats, feats.
- state skill point preferences and ending skill pionts.
- state overall feats taken
- state level ordering

Since you rarely have "the uber of everybody" build, I am looking for things more like, "This character is good at X, Y, Z". State the highlights and known weaknesses of the build.

Here is a sample:
Name: [undisclosed]
Race: Elf
Class: Bard/Red Dragon Discipline/Arcane Archer

Starting stats: (first level in bard)
Str: 16
Dex: 18
Con: 12
Wis: 8
Int: 8
Cha: 12

Skill points in Lore, SAVES remaining skill points.
Level 1: Bard (point blank shot)
Level 2: Bard
Level 3: Bard (weapon focus in longbow)
Level 4: Bard +1 STRENGTH
Level 5: Bard

Skill points are thrown in discipline, SAVES remaining.
Level 6: RDD (Power Attack) (+2 str from RDD)
Level 7: RDD
Level 8: RDD +1 STRENGTH
Level 9: RDD (Cleave)
Level 10: RDD

Skill points are SAVED
Level 11: Arcane Archer
Level 12: Arcane Archer , +1 STRENGTH, Great Cleave
Level 13: Arcane Archer
Level 14: Arcane Archer
Level 15: Arcane Archer, improved critical (longbow)
Level 16: Arcane Archer, +1 STRENGTH
Level 17: Arcane Archer
Level 18: Arcane Archer, Rapid Shot
Level 19: Arcane Archer
Level 20: Arcane Archer (+1 DEXTERITY)

Now that AB is the same for all classes beyond 20,
we go back to RDD:
Skill points in DISCIPLINE, save the rest.
fyi there are some other RDD immunities/stats given but I am not writing them here.

Level 21: RDD (Greater Dexterity)
Level 22: RDD
Level 23: RDD
Level 24: RDD (Greater Dexterity), +1 dex
Level 25: RDD (you get +4 str and some other stuff for 10th level of RDD)

Switch back to AA

Level 26: AA (AA level 11)
Level 27: AA (AA level 12), overwhelming critical(longbow)
Level 28: AA (AA level 13),
Level 29: AA (AA level 14) greater dexterity [epic feat]
Level 30: AA (AA level 15), devestating critical (longbow)
Level 31: AA (AA level 16)
Level 32: AA (AA level 17)
Level 33: AA (AA level 18), greater dexterity [epic feat], greater dexterity [normal feat]
Level 34: AA (AA level 19)
Level 35: AA (AA level 20)
Level 36: AA (AA level 21) greater dexterity
Level 37: AA (AA level 22) greater dexterity [epic feat]
Level 38: AA (AA level 23)
Level 39: AA (AA level 24) greater dexterity or epic skill focus in discipline

Remember all those skill points you were saving?
Level 40: RDD, max discipline and spend rest on what you want. Take +1 dexterity for your stat.

Finishing stats (NOT enhanced by equipment yet muahha:
26 str
28 dex
12 con
8 wis
8 int
12 cha

Highlights:
-Ranged devestating critical! Screw your enemies from a distance!
-Good Attack bonus, good AC, bardsong for +1 more AB.
-Difficult to disarm.
-High strength bonus to maximize +mighty on a bow. This can be as good as +12 bonus (do we have bows with +12 mighty?) if you max your str especially with subrace.

Weaknesses:
-Not very skilled
-Cannot beat a monk archer in archer vs. archer
-Nothing in the build helps vs. spells. Equipment can supplement a little.

Advice:
-Maximize range ability by using it! Don't fight straight up to avoid damage from opponent while still delivering shots.


Ok, this was just a sample of a favourite archer of mine. Post your builds using a similar, detailed form

Have fun critisizing my archer btw, and eachother

[Spathic]

Overwhelming crit works with bows? thought that was melee only.... hmmmm

[addicted2rpg]

Yep. Its quite wonderful. Dev crit is weird though.

[Xiloscient]

Ooooo should I. Should I? . . .
Nah.

Well... Alright.
After 5 remakes.. this is Xilo.




Name: Xilòscient
Race: Elf
Subrace: Drow
Class: Wizard/Fighter/Rogue

Starting stats:
Str 10
Dex 16
Con 12
Wis 8
Int 18
Cha 8

All levels are Wizard except level 38 and 40 which are fighter and rogue respectively.

Feats:
1-Luck of Heros
3-Combat Casting
5w-Spell Penetration
6-Toughness
9-Greater Spell Penetration
10w-Empower Spell
12-Expertise
15-Improved Expertise
15w-Maximize Spell
18-Still Spell
20w-Silent Spell
21-Epic Spell Penetration
23w-Improved Combat Casting
24-Automatic Still Spell I
26w-Automatic Still Spell II
27-Automatic Still Spell II
30-Epic Spell: Epic Mage Armor
29w-Epic Spell: Greater Ruin
33-Epic Spell: HellBall
32w-Epic Spell: Epic Warding
36-Automatic Silent Spell I
35w-Automatic Silent Spell II
38f-Armor Skin
39-Epic Fourtitude
39w-Automatic Silent Spell III

Obviously all 10 stats points are into Int.
And for skills... as you are adding to int the whole time.. you get quite alot..
Every wizard level keep Concentration and Spellcraft maxxed... other then that save.
The one level of fighter Max disapline.
And the level of rogue you max..
Use Magic Devise
Tumble
Open Lock
Spot
and rest into Search

Pro's :
Total AC wh0re with 10 from Expertise 8 from tumble... and heavy armor and tower shield.. and 5 dodge ac from epic mage armor. Normal Gear... ac=98
Plenty of spells with the best customization of a spellbook with +3 +2 and +1 meta magic feats.
The use of scrolls of all kinds including plenty of Harm and Heal scrolls.
Casts Spells with only thought... No sound and No movement.. So with scrolls of "Silence" cast onself with a mage in radius the enemy mage can't cast.. no save.
Plenty of Spell Resistance from drow ((52 at level 40))
I could go on.. but I won't
Pick any Lock in existance and spots Pick Pockets and traps and has reasonable Disapline.


Cons:
Demiliches who are immune to all magic.. take a while to kill.
Damien Swift with his Auto Spell Mantle cannot be touched... ((But I will *still* find a way))

Along with the best craftable items from all trades... He is a tank.

Disclaimer: For every idea you steal from me.... I will kill you.

[JoScMa]

Here's the build of one of mine:

Name: Elizabeth Shelby
Race: Human
Class: Fighter/Bard/Red Dragon Disciple

Starting Stats: (First level in fighter)
Str: 18
Dex: 11
Con: 14
Wis: 8
Int: 10
Cha: 11

Can't quite remember the order in which I took my feats, so here they are.

Several points are put into Lore (to meet RDD prereq.), and into Discipline. Rest are saved.
Lvls 1-20 in fighter (to maximize BAB):
1: Toughness, Called Shot, Luck of Heroes
2: Weapon Focus (Greataxe)
3: Blind-Fight
4: Cleave
5:
6: Weapon Specialization (Greataxe), Knockdown
7:
8: Weapon Proficiency (Exotic)
9: Weapon Focus (Katana)
10: Weapon Specialization (Katana)
11:
12: Improved Critical (Katana), Improved Critical (Greataxe)
13:
14: Great Cleave
15: Improved Power Attack
16: Weapon Focus (Greatsword)
17:
18: Weapon Specialization (Greatsword), Improved Critical (Greatsword)
19:
20:

Took 1 level of Bard. Dumped as many points as possible in Taunt and Use Magic Device.

21: Great Strength I

From lvl 22 - 31, I took levels in RDD. Put points in Discipline and saved the rest.

22:
23:
24: Great Strength II
25:
26:
27: Great Strength III
28:
29:
30: Great Strength IV
31:

From lvl 32 to lvl 39, I took fighter levels. Still, dumped points in Discipline and saved the rest.

32:
33: Epic Weapon Focus (Greataxe), Epic Weapon Specialization (Katana)
34:
35: Overwhelming Critical (Greataxe)
36: Devastating Critical (Greataxe)
37: Epic Prowess
38:
39: Overwhelming Critical (Katana)

At lvl 40, take one level of Bard, max out Discipline, Use Magic Device, and Taunt. Placed 6 points in Perform.

40: Devastating Critical (Katana)

Final stats:
Str: 40
Dex: 11
Con: 16
Wis: 8
Cha: 13

Highlights:
-High Strength
-Good AB (Thanks to strength!)
-Complete immunity to fire
-High Discipline
-Dev Crit in two weapons
-Fairly high DC to beat on Dev Crit.
-Able to use spell scrolls
-High probability of victory vs. spellcasters.

Downsides:
-Comparably low AC with Greataxe
-No Epic Weapon Focus and Epic Weapon Spec. with Katana
-Saves are mediocre at best.


This is my build more or less. Feat picks are not in that exact order. Could use tweaking, but I am not a person who rebuilds his character *4* times.

[addicted2rpg]

Xilo:

Wouldn't you want quicken spells instead of silent spells? If you got 52 SR odds are you won't silence very easily. The quickens -- and maybe I am mistaken -- should allow you to cast more times in a round?

Joe-re: Elizabeth Shelby-

Why are your final stats ending on "odd" values where you don't receive a bonus, unless you are making it for specific server gear which ends on another odd number to balance it out as an even. Odd stats are not efficient. I think lowering your cha to 10 and bumping your dex to 12 in the beginning is a better idea (you get +1 AC with heavy armor on then). You did the classes in the right order though and took a lot of good feats. I think she is designed for beating NPCs imho, notably by her lack of improved disarm which is more of a PvP feat, and the "excess charisma" (RP value?) =-) Regardless, looks like a nice char.

I should award a prize for top builds but I better approve that idea with Makz first, could be risky promoting that kind of thing on a forum dominated by rprs (who could potentially win anyway)

Its neat to see your builds guys. Do we got any pally/cot, cleric/cot, PM, or blackguard builds out there?

[Phoenix]

addicted2rpg said:

Xilo:

Wouldn't you want quicken spells instead of silent spells? If you got 52 SR odds are you won't silence very easily. The quickens -- and maybe I am mistaken -- should allow you to cast more times in a round?

In NWN if you have haste + quicken you still only cast 2 spells/round. Techincally (PnP) I think your correct because haste gives you a free partial action (spell) and quicken allows you to cast 2 spells in a full action. I tried this with Phoenix (picked up quicken just to test), since I don't build/rebuild locally to test first. I wasted a couple of feats with Phoenix because of that. Oh well...

[JoScMa]

Joe-re: Elizabeth Shelby-

Why are your final stats ending on "odd" values where you don't receive a bonus, unless you are making it for specific server gear which ends on another odd number to balance it out as an even. Odd stats are not efficient. I think lowering your cha to 10 and bumping your dex to 12 in the beginning is a better idea (you get +1 AC with heavy armor on then). You did the classes in the right order though and took a lot of good feats. I think she is designed for beating NPCs imho, notably by her lack of improved disarm which is more of a PvP feat, and the "excess charisma" (RP value?) =-) Regardless, looks like a nice char.

Well, I made the mistake of starting out with 11 dex. As for charisma, I had it started at 11 so I can take bard levels (11 cha is min req for bards). I got the additional +2 from RDD. What I probably should have done is to have 12 char at start and 10 dex at start or even 11 int so I could get disarm. Ah well. Live and learn

I do have a Pal/CoT build (Mackenzie). I will post his build later.

[Xiloscient]

addicted2rpg said:

Xilo:
Wouldn't you want quicken spells instead of silent spells? If you got 52 SR odds are you won't silence very easily. The quickens -- and maybe I am mistaken -- should allow you to cast more times in a round?

As pheonix said... PnP Auto Quicken is a must. But in NwN it doesn't stack with haste. I made that mistake with every other Xilo but this one. And the silence spell is not to stop clerics from stopping my spells. Becuase firstly I would have to roll a one on the save. But too encourage friendly clerics to cast the spell on me. Becyase if the silence spell is cast on a friednly target. There is NO save for himself.. OR anyone in a 15' foot radius. So if I have a cleric cast it on me... ((Or cast it from one of the large stockpiles of scrolls I have)) All I have to do is stay 15' or less distance from a mage.. and he cannot cast.. plain and simple.
The only alternative was to sacrifise all 3 Auto Silent spells.. and Mummy Dust to get 4 more int feats... with the plus 12 from items would have just gotten me over the hump for another 9th level spell.. But I think the use of the mummy against demiliches.. and the above example outwhieghed the extra 8th and 9th level spell I would have gotten.

And... I was accualy about to plan out a good Pally/CoT char for Mys. Mein to make..
Also already have the full plans for a Fig/WM/rogue, Pally/Sorc/rdd and a few more... but I just need to level them up on the server now =P

Ohh and about elizabeth. you only need 11 char to take a level of bard if it is your very first level. or if you accualy want to cast bard spell... as I'm quessing you don't you could have started with a char of 8 and been fine. Also... if you just choose one weapon that elizabeth would only use instead of two.. then that one weapon could have alot more power added to it. For things like disarm ect. And one feat I notice that noone EVER takes... Epic Prowess you can only take it once... but it is essentialy the same as weapon focus except that it work with all weapons... Whats not to love.

Now if only Makz would update the sythes so I could make my fighter... *sigh*

[addicted2rpg]

Ahhh, I see.

So.. how about Dave's favourite melee rogue? Designed for servers where true sight isn't all over the place -- this guy can hide and sneak and stuff.

Name: Nelduil Cheren
Race: Elf
Class: Rogue/Shadowdancer

Starting stats:
Strength: 16
Dexterity: 18 (wears 3 AC, 4 dex bonus stud. leather armor, only -1 skill point)
Constitution: 12
Wisdom: 8
Intelligence: 12
Cha: 8

Greatsword OR Scythe can be used on this one very well. I did a huge mathematical computation you guys don't even want to hear about that proves greatsword on average is slightly better than scythe, but you might like the scythe for the "crit you so hard you die before you can heal" kind of thing.

For this model I'm using greatsword.

Skill Points: Hide/Move Silently/Tumble/Use magic device/open lock/disable trap, the rest can go anywhere.

Level 1: rogue, Take martial weapons (exotic for scythe) 1d6 sneak attack
Level 2: rogue
Level 3: rogue (knockdown), 2d6 sneak attack
Level 4: rogue, +1 INT (you now have 13 int)
Level 5: rogue, 3d6 sneak attack
Level 6: rogue (dodge)
Level 7: rogue, 4d6 sneak attack
Level 8: rogue +1 STR,
level 9: rogue (mobility), 5d6 sneak attack
Level 10: rogue, crippling strike
Level 11: rogue, 6d6 sneak attack
Level 12: rogue, +1 STR, improved knockdown
Level 13: shadowdancer, hide in plain sight
Level 14: rogue, Improved Evasion, 7d6 sneak attack
Level 15: rogue, weapon focus greatsword
Level 16: rogue, +1 STR, 8d6 sneak attack
Level 17: rogue, opportunist
Level 18: rogue, improved critical greatsword ,9d6 sneak attack
Level 19: rogue
Level 20: rogue, 9d6 sneak attack, slippery mind, +1 STR

Level 21+ you can configure however you want. Keep raising strength always for this build. You can do the powerattack/cleave/great cleave/overwhelming/dev crit over the course of the next 15 levels (dev crit by 35),
or you can take great strength feats and continue to raise your AB. For your epic rogue levels, keep taking improved sneak attack.

You can also pickup the disarm/improved disarm feats if you want.

Result: 39 rogue/1 SD

Fighting style:
1. Lame SD tactics where possible (so lame, but effective).
2. You get sneak attacks when your opponent is prone, so knocking them down will give you sneaks in the subsequent rounds. Spam lots of IKD. Always.
3. Can fight solo, doesn't have to be partied like the high dex builds (the ones without KD -- keep in mind you can get weapon finesse on a dex bulid and knockdown, sounds weird but you can).

Switches:
A level of fighter and wear platemail (no stealth version). Drop the dex to 12 in the beginning instead of 18 (be a human instead) and throw the extra points into constitution (don't throw it into intelligence for the skill points because the plate will hurt most of your skills). This is basically a rogue that pretends they are a fighter. The idea though is not the higher ABs like you see with fighters, but for the big damage when you KD or are partied.

On a sneak attack that is also a critical hit (the sneak isn't multiplied but it is still summed with the critical) is amazing on this one, especially the scythe version with several of the improved sneak attacks taken. The damage is astronomical

[Norah]

Very impressive, Norah likey

[Zhoreb]

This is what I have planned for Anoushka Sende'len, the (half)drow merchant.

Race: Elf (Subrace drow)
Alignment: CN (I know.... it's the dragonblood....)
STR: 16
DEX: 16
CON: 10
INT: 12
WIS: 8
CHA: 14

Level progression
5 Bard
3 Red dradon disciple
1 Bard
7 Red dragon disciple
2 Bard
10 Palemaster
8 Bard
2 Palemaster
2 Bard

Take STR every ability increase.

Feats
lvl 1: Weapon proficiency martial
lvl 3: Weapon Focus Great sword
lvl 6: Power attack
lvl 9: Cleave
lvl 12: Weapon Focus Rapier
lvl 15: Improved Critical Rapier
lvl 18: Greater Cleave
lvl 21: Overwhelming Critical Rapier
lvl 24: Devastating Critical Rapier
lvl 27: Epic Weaponfocus Rapier
lvl 30: Curse Song
lvl 33: Expertise
lvl 36: Improved Expertise
lvl 39: Heavy Armor

Skills
Try to maximize Tumble, Spellcraft, Discipline. Perform 30 and UMD 25. Lore to 8 for RDD

Essential spells
lvl 1: Mage Armor, Protection from Alignment
lvl 2: Bull's Strength, Ghostly Visage
lvl 3: Keen Edge, Haste
lvl 4: Improved Invisibilty, *Warcry
lvl 5: *Greater Dispelling, Ethereal Visage
lvl 6: *Ice Storm, *Dirge
* If wearing heavy armor, importance of these is low.

Strengths
Anoushka will be good at melee, dealing devastating blows while immune to criticals herself. Fully buffed her first attack bonus will be over 60, while lowering the AC and AB of opponents with Curse Song. If opponent is immune to criticals, Anoushka will switch to great sword to deal some extra damage.
Excellent party enhancer with full Bard song and strong Curse song(at high levels).
Immunity to Fire, Paralysis, Sleep, and Critical hits.
The 'Cool' factor of dragon wings and skeletal arm to appease my inner child ;D.

Weaknesses
Vulnerable to disarm, knockdown(unless slippers are on), time stopping mages, harming clerics (if they can beat the SR of 52) and sneaking rogues, assassins and blackguards. (Uhm, that is about everyone )
Only 3 attacks a round.
Amount of feats is low, and even lower for Epic feats.

Naked Lvl 40 Stats
STR: 34
DEX: 16
CON: 12
INT: 14
WIS: 8
CHA: 16

AC: 33
SR: 52
Saves: Fortitude 23, Reflex 22, Will 25

I thought of the heavy armor only after character creation, it would have been better to lower Dex to 12 and increase Con and Int 2 points each, for extra hitpoints and skillpoints.

[MitzaVolchenko]

2 prestige classes?

[Phoenix]

Why not? I have been thinking about a F/WM/DD or even a P/COT/WM, I think I'm leaning towards the second bulid as a goodie, of course.

[addicted2rpg]

Had enough yet? Crying for mercy? Never!!

Muahhaha

My favourite slinger. Slings are SO underestimated...

Name: Frorry Thorroon the Second
Race: Halfling
Class: Rogue/ 1 SD

Starting stats:
Str: 10
Dex: 18
Con: 16
Wis: 8
Int: 14
Cha: 8

Skill pionts, just click "Recommended" and don't worry about it. 14 int is enough for most the stuff you want.

Level 1: rogue, Point Blank Shot., 1d6 sneak attack
Level 2: rogue
Level 3: rogue, weapon focus SLING , 2d6 sneak attack
Level 4: rogue
Level 5: rogue, 3d6 sneak attack
Level 6: rogue, Rapid Shot
Level 7: rogue, 4d6 sneak attack
Level 8: rogue, +1 dex
Level 9: rogue, 5d6 sneak attack, Dodge
Level 10: rogue, Improved Evasion
Level 11: rogue, 6d6 sneak attack
Level 12: rogue, +1 dex, Mobility
Level 13: Shadowdancer, Hide in Plain Sight
Level 14: rogue, 7d6 sneak attack, Slippery Mind
Level 15: rogue, Improve Critical in Sling
Level 16: rogue, 8d6 sneak attack
Level 17: rogue, Opportunist
Level 18: rogue, 9d6 sneak attack, Toughness
Level 19: rogue
Level 20: rogue, 10d6 sneak attack,, +1 dex

Level 21 - 40, rogue it up, take greater dexterity feats every 3 levels and for your rogue epic feats take improved sneak attack.

Fighting Style: Ankle Biter
1. Never give the enemy an honest, straight fight. You're always on the run.
2. Needs a friend for leveling and as a partner in all criminal activities (because you can't be directly engaged for sneak attack which is the only way this build does any damage). If just leveling, use summon scrolls if you can.
3. Remember to be 15' from your victim. Although its ranged, if you are too far you won't score sneak attacks.

Strengths:
-With a partner that focuses on a defensive build (high AC monk, or an ever-healing cleric), this little rogue is absolutely stunning. Tons of damage every round.
-This rogue has high AC due to all the dex. Ranged distance allows it to avoid being engaged. No engagement means no hit point loss which means can't die.
-+1 AB for halflings are naturally good with slings. +1 AC for small stature.

Vulnerabilities:
-Spells (long range) and arcane archers.
-Palemasters who are immune to critical hits
-Having a "bad" partner on your team who can't play in a way to maximize your strengths.

Switches:
Take 4 levels of fighter for weapon specilization. After going epic, you can take two more and I *think* it will let you pick up Epic Weapon Specialization (fighter feat, even though its not epic fighter) after epic weapon focus (regular feat). It will cost you probably 1 or 2 AC for not having as much dex, but your AB will be much better. Taking the time out will also cost an epic rogue feat.

This build is extremely effective if you attack your opponents while in the nude, especially with the halfling model and psychotic voice set.